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The Post has learned that one of Hunter Biden's former business partners called Joe Biden 'the Big Guy' in a panicked message sent the same day The Post reported that the president's son had left behind the infamous 'laptop from hell.'
James Gilliar, a former British Special Forces officer with ties to UK intelligence services, talked about an exclusive report from The Post with an unnamed person on October 14, 2020, according to a message given to GOP congressional investigators looking into the laptop by a whistleblower.
Gilliar, who is 58 years old, told the person in the message that the news about Biden's involvement in his son's foreign deals wouldn't hurt him or her, no matter who wins the 2020 presidential election.
Gilliar was asked if “Hunter and/or Joe or Joe’s campaign [would] try to make it ‘Oh, we were never involved’ … and try to basically make us collateral damage?”
“I don’t see how that would work for them…” Gilliar responded in the 6.07 p.m. message reviewed by The Post.
“I think in the scenario that he wins they would just leave sleeping dogs lie,” Gilliar added.
“If they lose, honestly, I don’t think that the Big Guy really cares about that because he’ll be too busy focusing on all the other s–t he is doing.”
Since then, the identity of the "big guy" has been part of the Wilmington, Delaware grand jury's investigation into Hunter's business dealings. At the same time, calls grew louder for President Biden, who has repeatedly denied having anything to do with his son's business dealings, to be included in a conspiracy investigation.
Gilliar had talked about the "big guy" because he was the driving force behind Hunter and his uncle Jim Biden's plan to make a multimillion-dollar deal with the Chinese energy company CEFC.
In an email sent to Hunter, Jim, and other partners on May 13, 2017, Gilliar explained how their shares of the profitable CEFC joint venture would be split. Hunter would keep 10% of the business "for the big guy."
This email, which had already been made public by The Post, was found on the laptop Hunter left at a repair shop in Delaware in April 2019.
Tony Bobulinski, a US Navy veteran and former friend of the president's son, said in public in October 2020 that "big guy" was a reference to President Biden. He said Biden knew about and was involved in the planned CEFC deal.
Bobulinski gave the FBI all of his messages and documents about the Biden family that same month. He also told the FBI that he met Biden on May 2, 2017 with Hunter and Jim in the lobby bar of the Beverly Hilton.
He said the meeting was to find out if he was trustworthy enough to be CEO of the joint venture with CEFC.
Bobulinski said that at the end of the meeting, Biden told him, "Thank you for helping my son... My son and my brother have full faith in you, so I do too."
Bobulinski said that he met Biden again the next morning backstage at the Milken Institute Global Conference, where Biden was talking about cancer.
Bobulinski says that Biden told him, "Keep an eye on my son and brother and watch out for my family."
Two weeks after the meeting, on May 20, 2017, Gilliar sent Bobulinski an important message through the encrypted messaging service WhatsApp, telling him not to talk about Biden's role in the CEFC deal.
“Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid,” Gilliar told Bobulinksi in the message.
“OK they should be paranoid about things,” Bobulinski replied.
Biden has repeatedly denied any knowledge of Hunter’s overseas business dealings.
Recently, the question of who the "big guy" is came up again when a grand jury looked into Hunter's business dealings.
At least one of the people who testified in front of the secret panel were asked about the name in Gilliar's email.
Biden has repeatedly said that he didn't know about Hunter's business dealings in other countries, but a voicemail he left for his son in 2018 about his business dealings in China seemed to contradict his previous claims.
In the voicemail, Biden called his son to talk about an article in the New York Times about Hunter's business dealings with a Chinese oil tycoon who was accused of economic crimes. He told Hunter, "I think you're clear."
Jim Jordan, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, said, "As more evidence comes out, it's clear that Joe Biden's ties to Hunter Biden's shady business dealings are worse than we ever thought."
Sources said that the investigation into the president's son had reached a "critical stage" and that officials were thinking about what charges to bring against Hunter.
Kevin McCarthy, the leader of the House Republicans, has already promised a series of "aggressive" investigations into Joe, Hunter, and Jim Biden, complete with public hearings, if the polls are right and the GOP wins control of the House in November.
“The message to his ranking members has been clear: Be aggressive, leave no stone unturned, ignore backlash from the leftwing media and do everything in your power to be ready to hold Biden accountable on day one,” a source close to McCarthy said Wednesday.
Rep. James Comer, the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee, added: “It’s clear the dam is breaking and come January, Republicans will use the gavel to get answers for the American people.
“Hunter and members of the Biden family have peddled access to the highest levels of government to enrich themselves. This is an ethics nightmare and national security threat… McCarthy and Oversight Committee Republicans are determined to hold the Biden family accountable for their shady business dealings with foreign adversaries.”
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